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  • http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

    Trust me on this it really does clear things up.

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  • Bloody loved it, can't have been easy on the vocals. You've made my day keep up the good work.

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    • I should add several tweaks. Like being confused about the Freddy Bully.

      I just really wanted to finally get Phase 1 out the door.

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    • I can understand that, it makes the rest look a bit easier once you've gotten the gist of it down.

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  • I'm aware I'm in the wrong.

    There, I admitted it.

    However, that doesn't excuse you calling me an alt of Ocean. Look, pal: I don't know who this guy was, or what he did, but I'm not him. 

    Us arguing is getting us nowhere, so can we just agree to disagree and leave it at that?

    I'll do my thing, you do yours. I won't even come back to any of your posts.

    Okay?

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    • When did I say that? I don't recall saying that.

      It looks like Toby has released the first chapter of Undertale 2, but I was as surprised as everyone else.

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    • Oh, I didn't know that.

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  • I'm sorry I had to lock it down Ferret, things were escalating and I'm sure you like me have had enough of the tense atmosphere. Feel free to start up again if you want I just couldn't stand by and watch that anymore I'm sure you understand.

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    • I've been lynched so many times with ALL of my theories, that I'm almost becoming a masochist.

      It really doesn't feel like I have much to lose. So I'm hoping to invoke "he who laughs last, laughs best".

      We now have confirmation that Asriel survived in Delta Rune. That's a theory of mine confirmed.

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    • Well yes I suppose in a way it has, at the very least it tells us Asriel did not revert back into Flowey and has managed to retain his original form. Perhaps the impending sequel may work in your favour just as SL did. I still remember the days when mad science in FNAF was seen as a ridiculous notion until SL and TTO jammed so much blatant Sci-Fi onto the surface it became impossible to ignore.

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  • Your theory that FGGG Foxy is William's springsuit doesn't work. 

    There is no suit on Foxy's legs for the endo to latch onto. 

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    • Foxy's robot is the springsuit?

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    • You stated that Foxy!Go! Go! Go! depicts a murder in which William dressed in a SpringFoxy. But, the Foxy in said minigame doesn't have any suit on the legs for the endo to latch onto. 

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  • ...and I was wondering what the AFH would look like without horcruxes. Naturally I berated myself "Star you idiot, horcrux is in the title how the bloody hell would you make Ferret's theory model work without horcruxes?" But then I thought back to TFC Charlie who more or less was given life by tears and it'd be more apt to say she were a duplicate rather than attached to the OG Charlie's human soul which is a point hammered home in that book. So I thought 'okay so say that the Afton family's soul transfers went much smoother and there was no soul splitting what then would that mean for the family tree and the story overall?'

    Well okay lets say hypothetically we run through the AFH but instead of splitting souls the family makes robot duplicates TFC style. Charlie becomes an android through JJ and then SF except she's a whole soul so then that leaves the Puppet in need of something Charlie related; perhaps an artificial soul meant to resemble Charlie made by Will as some sort of remorse. Anyway Charlie is the hardest character to make work with this self imposed hypothetical so lets move on to easier members of the Afton family. Sammy transferred into SB completely that one's easy as pie so lets leave BB haunted by a SAVETHEM victim and Classic Bonnie be haunted by the MCI victim. Important to note; OG classics/withered and Toys should be haunted by victims of MCI and SAVETHEM i.e. whole souls so as to avoid confusion. MCI victims can still be androids only TFC style duplicates rather than horcruxes. Okay I think I'll just lay out what this hypothetical would look like to save time explaining:

    Charlie = SF (temporarily inhabited JJ)

    Sammy = SB (temporarily inhabited BB)

    William = Mangle (with AI of dead wife)

    William's wife = part of SB

    Henry = Fredbear

    Phone Guy = Robo Henry

    Michael = himself as an android (devoured by SF for a while)

    Golden Freddy = Robo Michael

    Foxy = Robo Henry (kiddie version)

    Lamar = himself

    Chica = Robo Lamar

    Bonnie = Robo Sammy

    Freddy = nameless spirit of MCI victim (was controlled in FNAF 1 by Michael and Charlie respectively)

    Yellowbear = Unstable fusion of Robo Michael and Charlie

    Puppet = AI based on Charlie.

    Baby = memories of Elizabeth

    Elizabeth = Ennard

    Scrap Baby = fusion of Baby and Elizabeth hence the duality of personality.

    TL;DR version: Essentially the hypothetical is replacing horcruxes with robo clones just to see what it would look like.

    I'll stop before this becomes too much of a ramble, just though I'd share some thoughts I had on the AFH and a possible alternate explanation using TFC...it's also kind of to assure you that despite what Ocean thought your theories are worth a think about.

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    • I think the MCI victims were the young child BB version of Michael, Henry, Lamar, Sammy, and Charlie.

      They probably had different names. In fact, those names might be the ones pictured in the tomestone picture.

      As for the Save Them victims... I'm still figuring that out.

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    • Wait didn't Charlie cause the MCI as SF though? I'm assuming that the Charlie you speak of is another entity separate from SF.

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  • I've died and yet the great Ferret lives on :P

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    • Well, you're still talking, so that's a good sign of recovery.

      I think I may have already died multiple times, and just forgot about it.

      I guess I'm here for the duration. I'll be taking more side-adventures to other projects though.

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  • I was reading through my downloaded version of the AFH version 3 and I've been chewing over the idea that the retcon where Scott alters the characters of Henry and William in terms of personality and I was wondering if it's possible for FFPS to still fit using pre-retcon depictions of Henry and William.

    1-4 Henry/Phone Guy comes off as a cowardly, conniving, bitter and egotistical dick but he's also got just reasons for being that way. William shunned him, denied him his rightful place as his successor to the Afton business despite the fact he was eminently more qualified for the role than Michael all because he fell in love with a woman of a different ethnicity. From there on I understand he essentially catered to the Shadows' whims until Nega Charlie devoured him. Old Man Consequences, if he is a manifestation of Henry it could show that during the time he spent trapped by Nega Charlie it allowed him to reflect on his mistakes and so when he got free by the time of FNAF 6 he resolved to put an end to the horror. Basically instead of being retconned you could say that Henry instead came to his senses during his punishments dealt by Nega Charlie and emerged a different man from it with a new voice, new goal and new outlook to boot.

    As for William, he seems to be the origin of the tragedy as it was his racial bigotry that spurred Henry, indoctrinated Michael and basically caused the whole blooming mess. His attempts to fix this could've been purely self interest for his work as a scientist and desiring to take back the control Henry had wrestled from him. You were even surprised when it turned out William had after being freed from Shadow Bonnie let Michael face the horror of Sister Location in true cowardly fashion. Of course, I'm not saying that William need be interpreted in a completely negative light as I do think you can still work in the fact he didn't kill anyone (minus Nega Sammy and Charlie) and that perhaps after sacrificing a part of his soul to save his wife out of love it drained any empathy out of him making him even worse. Which effectively means that William could do all the things said in the AFH and still end up neatly coinciding with what we see in Scraptrap. I don't know your thoughts on who we are in UCN but either way you go on that front I definitely feel that you could actually smoothly connect your portrayal of 1-4 William and Henry with SL-5 William and Henry.

    Basically, Henry sees the light after he's released and Afton while not being nearly as bad as his novel counterpart is still a fractured and hateful character. This is just a suggestion of course.

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    • Argh, I didn't see this post at all. I think I'm losing track of messages.

      I'm still confused by Old Man Consequences a bit. It seems like he must be Henry in FNAF World, and yet if he's Henry in UCN, then WE can't be Henry. And if William is the one screaming, then Old Man Consequences would be.. Michael?

      I'm defintiely missing something.

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    • Don't worry about it man, you're hard at work making good stuff so I don't mind waiting. This was just a neat little fix I thought up where you wouldn't have to get messy with Henry and William's roles and instead have consistent character outlines for the 2 of them throughout FNAF 1-6. Of course my own thinking on the AFH has moved on quite a bit so this thread may be a little dated but I'm still incredibly grateful you gave it the time of day.

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  • My comment on CC = Michael was not aimed at you solely it was merely a commentary on the fanbase as a whole. I don't want there to be any misunderstandings between us.

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    • I know.. I just wanted to make sure I clarified some of the reasons why I did what I did. Since I think there's someone there other than you who has a negative opinion of me.

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    • That's their loss, honestly I find it much easier to love something than to hate it. I guess hate just lasts longer hence why people always think hate is easier.

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  • You may need to change the middle word for a third time i.e. Rose ate, Rose saved and now it's Rose...nah I don't wanna spoil just in case but yeah just a heads up.

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    • Here's the finished video:

      "It's Not Over!" https://youtu.be/UqFtHzfoqUU

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    • Yep saw it

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