All posts by TheFazBearSkeptic02

Enjoy the wiki. I’ve spent countless hours searching lore, crafting theories and formatting it in the Theorist channel, so I’m used to glancing at longer posts.

Your timeline seems alright, a pretty common interpretation all things considered. If you do decide to look into SB lore, I recommend looking into the Source code Easter eggs and the Cancelled teaser for some outside perspective.

Seems fine for the most part. I personally wouldn’t argue that Remnant gives infinite power though, but that’s moreso a nitpick than anything else.

I would also argue that souls don’t inherently stay to their original bodies, only if they have unresolved emotional issues do they stick around (akin to the phrase “be at peace”)

I would say the design/renovations of the restaurant comes down to cost and lawsuit liability.

The old animatronics were deemed a liability if allowed to roam during the day in FNAF 2, but their servos would lock up, likely being expensive to repair and costing showtime for the animatronics if they’re out of order (unless they can’t be trusted like foxy)

But as mentioned before, if the animatronics were left to their own devices, they would indeed wander outside (as the prevailing theory was that the animatronics were going to the room with the most noise, and while that isn’t 100% accurate, it likely would account for the deliberate walking towards the room with a human in it). It’s probably why steel doors are used for the office, as the front door likely would be easier to break down (as children need to get through it)

My suspicion is that the doors need to be open to sense the guard (as that’s how it worked at the FNAF 2 location), and they needed a way to make sure the employee didn’t keep the door shut the entire night, and save money on power, leading to the situation we have in FNAF 1. If things go wrong, they have the contingency of the liability disclaimer, and the delay period to dispose of the body (as shady as Fazbear Entertainment was, I doubt they were doing black market stuff)

The biggest factor is likely Elizabeth wanted the skin to last as long as possible, and having the victim alive and injected with Remnant would have preserved it more than just using a dead body.

Plus if you consider that Elizabeth was keeping her actions secret and was trying to emotionally manipulate Michael (even finding out where he lived in the Custom Night minigame), Michael was seemingly the perfect candidate.

I think that Vanny was intended to be Vanessa until SB released and separated the two characters (as the CDs and the 2 Vannys ending indicates)

Not their greatest story decision, but we work with what we have.

The question could be said about the inverse too: How could Michael crumple up after the ejection if one of the animatronics stuck around?

If you look at the “ejection” after it leaves Michael, you’ll notice six eye colours in the sewers symbolizing 6 characters leaving Michael. That would account for each of the FNAF SL animatronics.

I think the implication was that Michael “possessed” his own body in a sense, since Circus Baby was constantly reassuring Michael that he wouldn’t die. Whatever metal that didn’t leave reformed to make the bare essentials, and as Michael progressed, he “rebuilt” himself similar to the Scrap Animatronics (hence the robotic voice at the end of his monologue)

I just checked the minigame again. The lower jaw does indeed move upwards a few pixels, along with the upper jaw moving down a few pixels.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the explanation was more along the lines of “CC’s crying caused a shortage in the animatronic programming, so it reverted to its default state” which would likely be mouth closed

As the mouth would need to be open in order for the employee to climb inside (you can see the eyes of the employee when they’re wearing the suit through the mouth).

I feel like that easter egg in SB where the Security Bots are dressed up and around the table sort of speaks for itself in terms of the Afton family.

5 bots, 5 family members.

William, Mrs Afton, Michael, Elizabeth and CC.

These additional theories seem like an unnecessary way to complicate the already convoluted lore.

Phone Guy and Michael Afton are voiced by 2 different people with 2 different sounding voices (one being american and one being british). I don't see why there needs to be a lore connection between the two.

1 and 5:

Please explain why this teaser exists if you claim that Circus Baby was merely an add-on to the first Freddy Fazbear's pizza.

Other than that, seems fine. I don't particularly care either way if Nightmare is actually death or not, as he achieves the same effect either way.

RWQ to me is not worth theorizing over. Their base is Toy Bonnie (as mentioned by Scott and indicated by the Figurine used to enter his minigame in FNAF 3), they have connections to the MCI victims, and act like a duo like Spring Bonnie and Fredbear. Basically they exist everywhere in the timeline with no clear origin.

Shadow Freddy though, I think that's just another form of Golden Freddy honestly.

1. "You're inside something that came from my old pizzeria" likely refers to Circus Baby's Pizza World. The suit that the player is trapped in (and the one Elizabeth would be referring to) is most likely a Funtime Chica suit, which wouldnt make sense for the FNAF 4 restaurant.

Considering there were rumors of the MCI about (thanks to pigtail girl in the FNAF 4 minigame), what CC saw that traumatized him is currently speculation. It could have been Elizabeth's death, could have been Charlottes, could have been the MCI victims. There's no definitive way we could say for certain.

2. I would agree with that. Though I would put it more as a symbolic argument than the literal spirit of death chasing him (I.E his brain is deteriorating and as a result is enhancing his nightmares to symbolize the process of death sort of deal)

3: This particular point may be true, though it's no real consequence whether or not Elizabeth is older or not.

4: I would agree that he didn't have a reason at first. Though later on in the timeline it seems to be partially spite towards Fazbear Entertainment (hence incidents like Foxy Go Go Go) and partially because of the Remnant discovery and experimentation.

After all, he designed robots specifically for the purpose of kidnapping children after all.

5: Elizabeth died at Circus Baby's Pizza world during the private birthday party that happened before the location opened. That's a huge plot point in FNAF SL (Circus Baby's whole counting monologue, Elizabeth wanting to see Circus Baby but not being allowed alone with it, the Secret minigame where a child is captured by Circus Baby, etc.). It's also the reason why Circus Baby's Pizza world shut down before it even opened (as indicated by the Cancelled teaser).

C.C likely died in a hospital or an ambulance, because we hear a heart monitor flatline just before the game ends. Though it's obvious the reason he died was because of the FNAF 4 chomp.

Your fifth point sort of devolves into a weird rant and is somewhat difficult to understand. William did indeed die in the FNAF 1 location, but the FNAF 1 location is not Circus Baby's Pizza World. There's no evidence to support that.

Circus Baby's Pizza world had all of its equipment take by trucks away from the building (likely to be reused in Circus Baby's Entertainment and Rental), so unless you're suggesting that Fazbear Entertainment bought the land and the building and filled it in with their own branding (which I dont know how that would affect the plot that much), there's no real lore connection there.

6: As far as we know, the MCI souls were trapped in the FNAF 1 animatronics till William came to capture more remnant in the FNAF 3 EON minigames (at which point, William wouldnt have been able to get them to the Sister Location, as he died).

C.C's spirit wouldnt make sense as he wasnt nearby any of the Sister Locaton animatronics when he died

Cassidy, Gabriel, Jeremy, Fritz and Susie (usually) are connected with the MCI souls.

You could theoretically argue that the souls were from SAVETHEM, or whatever the animatronics could capture during the operating hours of Circus Baby's Entertainment and Rental.

Out of curiosity, how did the classic 4 become possessed then if they were already dead prior to being stuffed under your theory?

Seems we'll have to agree to disagree then.

In terms of the Toy Animatronics though, Phone Guy admits to us that some of the old technology from the Withered Animatronics was used as spare parts for the Toy animatronics. If the Toy Animatronics were possessed (as opposed to simply tampered with by William directly), using the corrupted spare parts was probably the cause over "being nearby".

I do understand the argument, but in the Puppet's case it was still direct contact with the animatronic in question and there's no sign that the Toy animatronics touched the kids after death.

I personally don't see much of a difference between a soul trapped in an animatronic and possession. That's probably my main sticking point at this rate.

The only main distinction that seems to be present is whether or not the child can actually do anything within the animatronic, which I would argue in most cases that the child can't even if a possession occurs. The child spirits cannot override the programming of an animatronic (otherwise they would have chased purple guy into the saferoom in the FNAF 3 minigame), so at best it would be FNAF 1 behaviour with twitchy heads and long aggressive stares.

As for Funtime Fredbear the argument was not about whether or not Funtime Fredbear actually captured a kid, it's that he was designed specifically to contain kids, in contrast to Circus Baby, who was designed to capture Elizabeth and have her possess the animatronic.

By the theory's logic, both animatronics should have the same outcome of non-possession, despite Circus Baby's eye colour changing between creation and when we see her in Sister Location. Why not simply have both designed like Circus Baby in terms of storage?

And of course there is the fact that the core premise of FNAF 1 is that getting stuffed into a suit causes a possession. That was the whole reason the MCI concept was created in the first place.

@Alfy puppet

Please elaborate as to what you think is happening then in Give Gifts Give life then, as simply stating it’s not the case does not discount the possibility for stuffing causing possession,

The transition between TCttC and the Security puppet minigame proves that each of the minigames in FNAF 2 have been simplified, and we know that the “glitch” of the endoskeletons being stuffed into suits carried over into the next generation of animatronics (this would include the Puppet because the Puppet we see in the Security puppet minigame has been altered since the Security Puppet minigame).

Furthermore, why is Funtime Freddy designed with the capacity to carry children whole if simply stuffing them into the suit does not cause a possession?

Additionally, there’s the plain fact that the children would have died pretty much instantly after being stuffed into an animatronic. If stuffing them into the suit doesn’t directly cause a possession, then the souls would simply escape like in the FNAF 3 minigame (as the implication is that dismantling the suits released the spirits, not some magic by the puppet)

And you still haven’t addressed the claim of the implications of Remnant, as Remnant is the primary cause of possession and seemingly deals with metal making contact with children’s spirits (as implied by the Scooper Blueprint)

I mean, the implication by Give Gifts Give life is that all the puppet did was stuff the bodies into the animatronics. I don’t really see how her method is different from William’s (unless she has some unexplained power that we’re not aware of.)

There’s also the fact that the implication of Remnant makes it bind onto metal if not kept contained properly (hence Ennard, molten Freddy and the blob), and Remnant is simply concentrated children’s souls, which is exactly what would happen if you were stuffed into a cramped animatronic suit.

Stuffing the kids into suits seems like a viable method, though of course it is not the only method.

On the topic of where the Withered Animatronics came from, it was likely the TCttC location. You play as Freddy in that game and it would have likely been shut down in accordance with the FNAF 2 phone call they’re referred to in.

I have heard FNAF 1 be compared to Star Wars 4 in the sense that both are self-contained stories that allowed for future instalments with hanging plot threads. So yes Scott may not have had everything planned out but it doesn’t automatically mean it’s unexplainable.

In terms of a logical timeline, the general consensus seems to be 4,2,1,3,6, UCN with Sister Location being pretty murky (I personally place it closer to FNAF 2 because of the metallic look, and the Sister Location source code Easter egg)