And the puppet doesnt exist in either the movie or the trilogy, actually

Do your research

And while im not saying it takes place in the movie, it doesnt take place in the game

Then what were you trying to say? Because you said they possibly take place in the same universe when I made a point about Ella being in the movie

They are all canon, possibly except for the twelfth volume of Fazbear Frights.

I said they could.

And my point was, the games cant have ella, because that is the universe that has to have the fourth closet and henry killing himself.

And the fazbear frights MUST have a connection to the books because of that.

And what does that prove?

Sure, puppet might exist in the movie, but that doesnt mean that my previous point about the ff's having a connection to ella being any less valid. Even if the movie isnt connected to the trilogy,the frights physically have to be.

The Puppet is in the second movie?

Scott called the novel trilogy and movies alternative timelines that still remain canonical within the general universe. He didn't name Fazbear Frights AU, but they are directly related to game events, and a game was also made based on one of the books (I hope everyone understands that games are part of the game timeline). Tales from the Pizzaplex was named part of the games, and other elements from this series appeared in the games. Everything is already clear about interactive novels.

 Sure, puppet might exist in the movie, but that doesnt mean that my previous point about the ff's having a connection to ella being any less valid. Even if the movie isnt connected to the trilogy,the frights physically have to be.

(I hope everyone understands that games are part of the game timeline)

Also, by that logic, is the troll games part of the timeline?

Freddy in space?

Fnaf world?

FLaF?

Fnaf AR?

Strangely enough, just because it is a game, doesnt mean its part of the game timeline,

The tales; they have enough evidence.

Same for interactive novels

But the FF's inclusion of ella is a deal breaker; the only reason it exists as a small doll was to be made by henry for the fourth closet. The same goes for Puppet; it only exists in a universe where henry wanted to protect his daughter with the security puppet.

The fazbear frights might be metaphors, but dont take direct place in the games at all times, as they show different versions of the animatronics

Funtime freddy shouldnt be in some persons garage for example. hes already part of ennard at that point. or in the bunker.

Or maybe how Shadow bonnie is not sentient in the slightest in the books but shows THOUGHTS in the game

Or maybe how susies resting soul departs way differently than the games.

Or perhaps how in the FF's. The phantoms could physically attack people.

Imagine, these games are also canonical. Some are spin-offs, and some are games from Fazbear Entertainment.

We don't know the details of Ella's parentage. Perhaps Henry tried to create a robotic Charlie in games, and then abandoned the idea. Hence the appearance of this doll. There are other options. There are also many options for animatronics. Funtime Freddy may be from AR or a subsidiary pizzeria, of which there are many at the moment of modern times. Shadow Bonnie is the same. Susie is not released in the story, but simply leaves the house. She stays with Chica.

Again, if interactive novels are canon, but so are Fazbear Frights, because RTTP exists.

Which one.

Which one's canon?

Fnaf world was directly confirmed Non canon. FiS and FLaF have no direct lore connections and clearly aren't main universe.

Fnaf AR's story implications were contradicted, if not thrown away by SB. And the game isn't even liked by the company who released it.

The troll games are just made as jokes by Scott.

So again, I say, not every game by Scott is canon to the game timeline. Just as not every book is canon to the book timeline.

Why would henry try to make robo Charlie 1/4th of the way in the games (in the same exact way, mind you) and call it quits?

And also, just suddenly grow a will to live to not kill himself like in the books.

The much plausible explanation imo is that he simply didn't have the same reaction to it as in the books.

Instead of trying to create his daughter and kill himself. He instead tried to actually get justice against William. The book and games counterpart for characters are different at times.

Such as the book counterpart of golden Freddy to the games one. Shadow Bonnies counterpart to the games one. Several characters counterparts to their in game one,

And CBPW was such a failure that while will did open rentals underground, he had to shut down their main (and likely only) branch. Why would he make multiple versions of Funtime Freddy since he personally designed each. The FunTime's were meant to extract remnant; too many test subjects ruins results as theirs too many to deal with. A contained small amount is easier to manage and less suspicious as they were used to kidnapped children; kids disappearing across multiple restaurants from the same chain looks super suspicious.

Shadow bonnie acts fundamentally different. In fnaf 3, has directly trying to free the souls and is more benevolent. In the FF"s, he literally murk's a kid. Thats nowhere near alike.

And regarding Susie

. Samantha watches Susie return to Chica and continue walking, disappearing as Oliver drops his last leaf. Samantha believes this is a beginning, and she’s certain that Susie is going where she can be with her family forever.

If this doesnt scream shes resting in peace, i dont know what will. What about the fact that susie canonicaly has different hair in the FF's than the games.

FNaF World has not been recognized as non-canonical. Scott said in an interview that he just regretted it, so, apparently, he made it a spin-off. But at the same time, the game still features the fourth tunnel and the Old Man Consequences that appear in the canon games. FiS and FLaF can be games within the universe. There were even direct hints about this in SB. (And it also seems that the description of FLaF literally said so). No one deleted SD from the canon. The game in the store was listed as a new part of the franchise, and the facts there from the letters directly referred to the canonical HW and SB.

That's what you think. Scott usually says in plain text what is canon and what is AU. In the case of novels and films, we have the developer's words about their distance from the main (game) timeline, but this does not make them non-canonl.

The characters in the games and books are the same. CharlieBot's introduction to games could explain what Henry has been doing for forty years and at the same time explain the presence of Ella. But I repeat: this is just one of the assumptions. I'm not saying that's the case. Perhaps Ella will be given a different backstory as part of the games.

We know that in the modern era, pizzerias have opened with both old and new animatronics. In Dance with Me, Baby's pizzeria is mentioned, which means that Funtime animatronics should have been present there. Although it could be Freddy from Special Delivery. Also an option.

You should not trust mini-games in which toy animatronics for some reason help souls to free themselves, although this is obviously done by the main character, and not by in-game characters. Shadow Bonnie in Special Delivery is also trying to kill the main character, and Shadow Freddy does the same in the guise of a Nightmare from FNaF 4. And in principle, shadow creatures like Eleanor feed on people's emotions. They can't be positive characters.

So at the end of the story, Chica takes Susie with her. She didn't get free because the souls won't be able to rest until their killer is punished. Hair color is a great argument. Then let's separate The Mimic from the game and from the first TFTP epilogue. Still, they look too different (one has human teeth and the other has sharp ones).