The Puppet is in the second movie?

Scott called the novel trilogy and movies alternative timelines that still remain canonical within the general universe. He didn't name Fazbear Frights AU, but they are directly related to game events, and a game was also made based on one of the books (I hope everyone understands that games are part of the game timeline). Tales from the Pizzaplex was named part of the games, and other elements from this series appeared in the games. Everything is already clear about interactive novels.

 Sure, puppet might exist in the movie, but that doesnt mean that my previous point about the ff's having a connection to ella being any less valid. Even if the movie isnt connected to the trilogy,the frights physically have to be.

(I hope everyone understands that games are part of the game timeline)

Also, by that logic, is the troll games part of the timeline?

Freddy in space?

Fnaf world?

FLaF?

Fnaf AR?

Strangely enough, just because it is a game, doesnt mean its part of the game timeline,

The tales; they have enough evidence.

Same for interactive novels

But the FF's inclusion of ella is a deal breaker; the only reason it exists as a small doll was to be made by henry for the fourth closet. The same goes for Puppet; it only exists in a universe where henry wanted to protect his daughter with the security puppet.

The fazbear frights might be metaphors, but dont take direct place in the games at all times, as they show different versions of the animatronics

Funtime freddy shouldnt be in some persons garage for example. hes already part of ennard at that point. or in the bunker.

Or maybe how Shadow bonnie is not sentient in the slightest in the books but shows THOUGHTS in the game

Or maybe how susies resting soul departs way differently than the games.

Or perhaps how in the FF's. The phantoms could physically attack people.

Imagine, these games are also canonical. Some are spin-offs, and some are games from Fazbear Entertainment.

We don't know the details of Ella's parentage. Perhaps Henry tried to create a robotic Charlie in games, and then abandoned the idea. Hence the appearance of this doll. There are other options. There are also many options for animatronics. Funtime Freddy may be from AR or a subsidiary pizzeria, of which there are many at the moment of modern times. Shadow Bonnie is the same. Susie is not released in the story, but simply leaves the house. She stays with Chica.

Again, if interactive novels are canon, but so are Fazbear Frights, because RTTP exists.

Which one.

Which one's canon?

Fnaf world was directly confirmed Non canon. FiS and FLaF have no direct lore connections and clearly aren't main universe.

Fnaf AR's story implications were contradicted, if not thrown away by SB. And the game isn't even liked by the company who released it.

The troll games are just made as jokes by Scott.

So again, I say, not every game by Scott is canon to the game timeline. Just as not every book is canon to the book timeline.

Why would henry try to make robo Charlie 1/4th of the way in the games (in the same exact way, mind you) and call it quits?

And also, just suddenly grow a will to live to not kill himself like in the books.

The much plausible explanation imo is that he simply didn't have the same reaction to it as in the books.

Instead of trying to create his daughter and kill himself. He instead tried to actually get justice against William. The book and games counterpart for characters are different at times.

Such as the book counterpart of golden Freddy to the games one. Shadow Bonnies counterpart to the games one. Several characters counterparts to their in game one,

And CBPW was such a failure that while will did open rentals underground, he had to shut down their main (and likely only) branch. Why would he make multiple versions of Funtime Freddy since he personally designed each. The FunTime's were meant to extract remnant; too many test subjects ruins results as theirs too many to deal with. A contained small amount is easier to manage and less suspicious as they were used to kidnapped children; kids disappearing across multiple restaurants from the same chain looks super suspicious.

Shadow bonnie acts fundamentally different. In fnaf 3, has directly trying to free the souls and is more benevolent. In the FF"s, he literally murk's a kid. Thats nowhere near alike.

And regarding Susie

. Samantha watches Susie return to Chica and continue walking, disappearing as Oliver drops his last leaf. Samantha believes this is a beginning, and she’s certain that Susie is going where she can be with her family forever.

If this doesnt scream shes resting in peace, i dont know what will. What about the fact that susie canonicaly has different hair in the FF's than the games.

FNaF World has not been recognized as non-canonical. Scott said in an interview that he just regretted it, so, apparently, he made it a spin-off. But at the same time, the game still features the fourth tunnel and the Old Man Consequences that appear in the canon games. FiS and FLaF can be games within the universe. There were even direct hints about this in SB. (And it also seems that the description of FLaF literally said so). No one deleted SD from the canon. The game in the store was listed as a new part of the franchise, and the facts there from the letters directly referred to the canonical HW and SB.

That's what you think. Scott usually says in plain text what is canon and what is AU. In the case of novels and films, we have the developer's words about their distance from the main (game) timeline, but this does not make them non-canonl.

The characters in the games and books are the same. CharlieBot's introduction to games could explain what Henry has been doing for forty years and at the same time explain the presence of Ella. But I repeat: this is just one of the assumptions. I'm not saying that's the case. Perhaps Ella will be given a different backstory as part of the games.

We know that in the modern era, pizzerias have opened with both old and new animatronics. In Dance with Me, Baby's pizzeria is mentioned, which means that Funtime animatronics should have been present there. Although it could be Freddy from Special Delivery. Also an option.

You should not trust mini-games in which toy animatronics for some reason help souls to free themselves, although this is obviously done by the main character, and not by in-game characters. Shadow Bonnie in Special Delivery is also trying to kill the main character, and Shadow Freddy does the same in the guise of a Nightmare from FNaF 4. And in principle, shadow creatures like Eleanor feed on people's emotions. They can't be positive characters.

So at the end of the story, Chica takes Susie with her. She didn't get free because the souls won't be able to rest until their killer is punished. Hair color is a great argument. Then let's separate The Mimic from the game and from the first TFTP epilogue. Still, they look too different (one has human teeth and the other has sharp ones).

The teeth could be physically switched out, but the hair color cant. and has no reason to be inconsistent.

In the movie, shes blond with curly hair

In the novels. Shes blond with curly hair

In the games, shes blond with curly hair

So the fact shes explicitly stated to be NOT blond in coming home means theirs a distinction scott wants to make.

Scott might have connections regarding fnaf world. But the fact he regrets it to this day and tries to throw it to a ditch implys he doesnt want to put lore importance to it. FiS and FLaF can totally be in universe games, but their still non canon. They arent actual events.

AR implied she was using a fellow member of her company to achieve mimics goals. But we dont see that anywhere in the game of SB.

In fact, we dont even hear of the guy in AR.

And it cant be too lore important if scott no longer even makes it playable.

Non canon=something that is not canon.

If it doesnt happen directly in the games, it is not canon to the games

It is to its own timeline. But not the games.

Like how the fnaf movies not canon to the games. It's its own entity.

Henry is more suicidal in the books, and more vengeful in the games. Afton was springlocked prior in the books and lived to tell the tale but we have no evidence of such in the games. Golden freddy in the book is more calm than in the movie.

In every adapation, shadow freddy doesnt kill people. That is a fundamental note about their character. The only reason they found charlie in the novels is because of shadow freddy. Shadow freddy directly took the kids to be freed and get revenge. Shadow freddy doesnt attack the protag of fnaf 2 or 3 to my knowledge, and to my knowledge as well, its not flat out confirmed fnaf 4 is reality. It could still be a dream or coma.

Even if its not, just because they look alike doesnt mean its the same animatronic. We dont have knowledge about it being violent ONCE.

Shadow bonnie attacks people in Ar, but at the same time, AR also has balloon boy being able to kill people so its not 100% accurate.

Let's just agree to disagree. Have a nice day.

Sure. While The Mimic was dismembering people, someone managed to replace his teeth, clean his body and cut off his ears. I can still think of a bunch of examples where the characters' appearance is described incorrectly because Scott doesn't give a full description. It's like accusing the nightmarish animatronics from Dittophobia for not having the same claws they do in the game. If Scott wanted to emphasize that we have different timelines, he would not have made TMiR a direct continuation of UCN, as well as tied the game context to such stories as ITP, RFOM, WWF.

The very fact that they exist makes them canon. I don't remember AR mentioning Mimicry in principle. It said that Vanessa was getting a job at a Pizzaplex, which is what we see in SB.

No, this is an absolutely incorrect concept of the canon. We're not going to say that Star Wars animated series are not canon, because they weren't in the movies. Scott clearly stated in that post that the novel trilogy is an alternative, but still canonical timeline. It's the same with movies.

In the novels, Henry tried to stop Afton by hiding his creations and destroying him. In the games, he tried to do the same thing, but later on the timeline. Literally the same situation. And in both cases, Henry's actions did not stop the murder. In the novels, Golden Freddy was obsessed with Michael Brooks, who recognized his friends and therefore did not want to harm them. In games and movies, there are just other kids in it who aren't as friendly. Although in the movie he tries to negotiate with Mike.

Shadow Freddy even behaves like an antagonist in your examples. He lured the classic animatronics into Afton's trap, as Henry described it in FFPS. He allowed the murder to crush them again, because the souls couldn't be freed anyway if the suits were simply broken. In the novel The Twisted Ones, a kind of Shadow Freddy leads the main characters to Afton's lair, where they were almost killed. In the FNaF 4 files, the Nightmare is called "Shadow Freddy". Well, I remind you that Shadow Bonnie, Eleanor and the Yellow Thing from ITP are also similar in nature to shadows, but they are always presented as antagonists.

Sure. While The Mimic was dismembering people, someone managed to replace his teeth, clean his body and cut off his ears. I can still think of a bunch of examples where the characters' appearance is described incorrectly because Scott doesn't give a full description. It's like accusing the nightmarish animatronics from Dittophobia for not having the same claws they do in the game. If Scott wanted to emphasize that we have different timelines, he would not have made TMiR a direct continuation of UCN, as well as tied the game context to such stories as ITP, RFOM, WWF.



The very fact that they exist makes them canon. I don't remember AR mentioning Mimicry in principle. It said that Vanessa was getting a job at a Pizzaplex, which is what we see in SB. 



No, this is an absolutely incorrect concept of the canon. We're not going to say that Star Wars animated series are not canon, because they weren't in the movies. Scott clearly stated in that post that the novel trilogy is an alternative, but still canonical timeline. It's the same with movies.



In the novels, Henry tried to stop Afton by hiding his creations and destroying him. In the games, he tried to do the same thing, but later on the timeline. Literally the same situation. And in both cases, Henry's actions did not stop the murder. In the novels, Golden Freddy was obsessed with Michael Brooks, who recognized his friends and therefore did not want to harm them. In games and movies, there are just other kids in it who aren't as friendly. Although in the movie he tries to negotiate with Mike.



Shadow Freddy even behaves like an antagonist in your examples. He lured the classic animatronics into Afton's trap, as Henry described it in FFPS. He allowed the murder to crush them again, because the souls couldn't be freed anyway if the suits were simply broken. In the novel The Twisted Ones, a kind of Shadow Freddy leads the main characters to Afton's lair, where they were almost killed. In the FNaF 4 files, the Nightmare is called "Shadow Freddy". Well, I remind you that Shadow Bonnie, Eleanor and the Yellow Thing from ITP are also similar in nature to shadows, but they are always presented as antagonists.

Ill start from the bottom up.

The only way for the souls to be free would be to get vengeance. They would keep killing people by being stuck in the suits and still suffer.

And while they did Almost get killed, they also were given the chance to save the Person they care dearly about. Shadow Freddy cant see the future. All it would know is she's trapped in the cave and they want to find her.

In the novels, he didn't try to destroy him. He hid the creations, built a weird robot closet, neglected his family, and committed suicide. Thats no where near as intricate as what he did in the games, trapped him in a labyrinth through years of planning to burn and set all the souls free.

Michael brooks in the books never tries to attack them once. And even if theirs " other souls " in golden, its different people then. One is more of a violent route.

In the games, it never tries for peace like the movie, immediately trying to kill.

The novels aren't canon because they show a completely different death of afton. Im sorry but that's indisputably noncanon. Henry committed suicide in the books and is for sure dead. Thats a completely different story than the games.

In the movie, aftom never even had sons. Also completely different than the games and therefore non canon.

Its canon to its timeline but not the games.

While we are talking about that. ITP shows a completely different MCI than in the games. the games have repeatedly beaten over our heads that theirs 5 missing kids. But theirs 6 in ITP.

What we found shows different phantoms than in the games. Otherwise, we would get killed much faster in fnaf 3.

The mimic can literally switch into a costume in one of the endings of ruin quickly. And is a very adaptive animatronic. It has a excuse to change minor parts like fingers or fangs. A 8 year child does not.